snollygoster. thanks for watching us. i'm bill o'reilly reporting from washington. please remember the spin stops right here in d.c., we're definitely looking out four. >> sean: this is a fox news alert. james gandolfini, phone for his role as tony soprano has died. he was 51. he was vacationing in rome at the time. it is believed he had a heart attack. joining me now on the phone is a former soprano cast member and a friend. vince curatola is with me. >> thank you, sean. i heard a few hours ago. i was in manhattan. the phone started ringing like crazy from our manager. we have the same business manager and so on and so forth. i'm completely blown away.

we were just together at mohegan sun, the cast, did a personal appearance. we just finished a movie together. i see jimmy, i'm in shock. >> sean: was there any indication, there was a report he had heart attack. there was any indication that he had heart trouble that you know of? >> no. i've been with this guy -- we started working together in 1998 and i never heard an inkling of such a thing, never. i saw him 2 1/2 weeks ago. trim. looking great. i don't know. this is a guy who lit up every room he walked into. you know he was very town of television. that was the role. but he was a 180 in real life. a softie. a loveable, loveable guy. i just received a call from chris christie offering his condolences. i mean everybody loved jimmy.

>> sean: i'm a big fan. i'm watching the show every night at 11:00 on hbo because they are rerunning it. you know what a big fan i've been of "the sopranos." i was pushing you. i wanted you guys to make the movie. >> i know. everybody says that. but you know, that would be something for david chase to decide. of course, now, but, you know, we all bask in the light of our friendship that we all had together since 1998 when i started on the show. it's enough to satisfy you when you're a cast member, it really is. >> sean: vincent, i know how much you cared about james. >> without a doubt. >> sean: his family is in our thoughts and prayers as well as the cast members. >> thank you, sean, god bless. >> sean: also tonight some major developments to report regarding a senate immigration reform bill. in a moment marco rubio will join me. in the last 24 hours the congressional budget office released its analysis on the

legislation. let's take a moment to via. some good news for those supporting the bill. the cbo score concluded it would cut the budget deficit $200 billion. other headlines are not so positive. if enacted the bill would raise the unemployment rate through 2020. wages would drop. but they might begin increasing after 2025. "the washington times" also reports the cost of obama care would rise significantly however those costs would be offset they say by an increase in revenue. why? because it's estimated 10.4 million new residents would be added over the next decade. marco rubio is joining me now. senator, i'm sure you are aware there is a lot of anger in the conservative community over this bill because the feeling is this bill does not do what it said it would do and that is secure the

border first. your reaction. >> border security is critical and here's why. america is a special country. people want to come here from all over the world. it's so special some people are willing to come here and risk their lives and come here illegally. we're a sovereign country. every sovereign country on the planet has a right to defend its border. that's why border security is critical. that's why we have to step up what we do on border security. it was one of the founding principles of this bill when it came out border security needed to be a prominent feature of this bill. since we introduced it, i know on your show identify done this, identify asked people for their input. they raised valid concerns about what's wrong with the proposal as it stands on border security. so i think here over the next few hours there will be additional news to report on the work of some of my republican colleagues to significantly and substantially increase the border security parts of the bill. >> you said in a univision

interview that got a lot of play and anger among conservative, legalization is going to happen. first comes legalization, then comes measures to secure the border. is that the right priority, shouldn't it be secure the border first? >> first of all that's not what the bell does. how the bill works is the permanent residency which is the ability to stay in the country permanently and apply for citizenship, for that to happen, e-verify has to happen, a tacking system has to happen and all sorts of border provisions, hopefully the ones that will be announced tomorrow, all those things must happen before anyone can possibly who violated our immigration laws before they can apply for permanent status. what people have anxiety about there are people living here in the united states who will begin to work legally in the united states before all of that is completed. but the way to look at it and the way i've looked at it they are already here. they are here now and working here now. the only difference if this pass we'll know who they are.

they will have undergone a background check, pay a fine and pay taxes. if we don't deal with that now it will stay the way it is. i just think that's bad for the country. now as far as being permanently here they can't be permanently here. they can't be permanently here until those important elements that i've discussed, until those things happen. >> sean: senator you mentioned twice what we might here tomorrow about the bill. i have a source in washington that told me earlier tonight that tomorrow there's going be a huge border security amendment added to the bill. i don't know what you're able to confirm here tonight. i'm told the number of agents will be doubled. i'm told that there will be a complete shin of the fence. e verify, entry, exit, over staying issue, all of this will to be done and all be triggers before there's any legalization or path to a green card. can you confirm that? >> we have some republican

colleagues here in the senate that have been work very hard based on the input people are getting and we're getting it like you're getting it how we can improve border security and they have been working hard to come up with a proposal. they are still finalizing that. but let me say that what i think you can expect to see tomorrow is a substantial improvement, a substantial improvement in the border security part of this bill and we think that's important for the reasons i out lined. this is not about anti-immigrants or trying to be tough on anybody. we're a sovereign country and every sovereign country in the world has a right to protect its borders. every country in the world would do that. >> sean: senator, a lot of people were surprised and in previous interviews i had with you you said you would secure the border first. a number of amendments were voted on and you voted against it. >> i think the proposals need to go further. for example, one of the criticisms we heard from the

public input is that the bill leaves it to the department of homeland security to design the plan. so did some of these amendments. although very well intentioned. i know what they were trying to get at. we don't, i don't want to leave the plans and design, we don't want to leave it to janet napolitano to design the border plan. i want to put it in the bill. that's one of the reasons quite frankly why i didn't support those amendments because i think what my republican colleagues will produce tomorrow will be better. >> sean: you knew these other changes were coming. maybe i should ask you a finality question. if you're not convinced the border will be secure so this problem is gone forever, is that a deal killer for you? >> it's not worth doing the bill if that doesn't happen because border security -- again i try to remind everybody the reason why border security is so important not because we're trying to be mean or harsh but because as a sovereign country we have an obligation and a right to protect our borders.

america is a special country. we under why people want to come here. we feel sympathetic to people because of desperation in their home countries they come here, risk their lives and what have you but we can't allow that to happen because if you lose that you lose your sovereignty. in order for me to be involved in the issue to begin with, without the border security actop priority that's not something i could have even started working on because it leaves the problem in place. >> your telling conservatives then to be patient with you, that the bill is not finished and maybe they read too much into it too early? >> i think conservatives have a right to be skeptical about this. the federal government in the past has failed to enforce our immigration laws. it's obvious i didn't do this for political gain. this is not something that's going gain me any parades. people are frustrated. i hope they under i studied this issue carefully for two years.

what we have in place right now is a disaster. it's hurting this country terribly. if we don't deal with this problem particularly with the border security but also identifying these people that are living in our country and start getting them to pay taxes and consequences for having violated our laws we'll leave in place a disaster, a de facto amnesty disaster that's hurting our economy, sovereignty, our security. >> sean: the reason for the distrust every time we hear there's going spending reined in and tax increases american people seem to get the tax increase but never get the spending cuts. i guess you understand the distrust. >> do i. that's why those things are linked. that's why the permanent residency with the green card -- that won't happen unless these border provisions happen first. >> sean: can i just get you maybe to reiterate, because there's been so much debate about this. you're saying you're pretty confident tomorrow that the

border will be secure first with triggers before there's any path to legalization? >> before there's any path to permanent residency, permanent legal residency. you have 11 million people living here right now. we have to run them through a background check and start paying taxes and pay a fine. but that's not permanent. that's a temporary work status. the only difference between what they are doing now and what i'm proposing they have to pay taxes and undergo a back brown check. they are already here. >> sean: i keep hearing the house is talking about bifurcating it say we'll pass the border security and then we'll move forward with dealing with the 11 million people. if they pass that and i want goes to conference would you support that? >> we can't do anything without the house. i won't tell the house what to do. they will go in the direction they feel is right for the country. that's the other thing people have to remember. even if we finish the senate

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>> sean: welcome back to hannity. earlier today thousands of tea party supporters flocked to the national mall. these patriotic americans protested against the administration's widespread abuse of power. you're looking at exclusive video from today's anti-tax rally. >> it's time to abolish the irs, take up something where every single american has to pay something to support this magnificent country. >> let us live free together and let's restore constitutionally limited government. >> as i look at this $5 bill it

says in god we trust. it shouldn't have to end there. it should continue with those that are here to serve you. >> i woke up this morning and i couldn't find my cell phone. so i asked harry reid if i could borrow his. you think the nsa is going to be surprised when they see harry reid at a tea party? >> do you believe what's going on with the irs is wrong? do you believe it's an abuse of your personal freedom? do you want a federal investigation? well then say it very loudly, tell the men in charge here to investigate the men over there. >> we have got to you night. we have got to join hands. we have got to fight this to the very end. this is not an option. this is an obligation. >> do we trust the irs with obama care and our health care? we need to abolish the irs and

together we can get it done. >> sean: joining me two members of congress who spoke at this afternoon's rally, jim jordan and michele bachmann. welcome. congresswoman let's start with you. can we abolish the irs and how? >> of course we can. congress needs to introduce a bill and we can make it happen. we're the one whose created the irs and we're the ones after 100 years that can let it go away. it's the most feared agency in the united states government. >> sean: do you think a national sales tax, congressman is that the answer, because that would abolish the irs. we're told it's revenue neutral. >> sure we could. we could do that because as i said every american benefits from this magnificent country. a national sales tax would achieve that but only if we abolish all other taxes. if we abolish the irs and the tax code then we can embrace something like a national sales tax. >> sean: congressman jordan

>> or go to something real simple that the american people understand and that's fair, like a flat tax. take so much power away from the irs. the one speaker who talked about the fact that do you want the very agency that targeted americans for political beliefs do you want them enforcing obama care. that's the issue. that's what we have to focus on. tax reform that is simple. getting rid of the obama care legislation so this agency is not looking at your health care just like they were targeting you for tax reasons. >> sean: we were told originally these were rogueing agent s i cincinnati. how far up does this go? >> it was direct rd from political operation somehow connected with the white house. i knew that because i'm a former tax litigation attorney. i was an irs lawyer. my background told me very clearly that the way the irs operates, they have thick standard operating procedure

manuals. you have to check every box and then your supervisor and their supervisor on up the food chain checks every amount of work that any employee does. it would be virtually impossible for low level agent to go rogue. >> sean: how do we get to the truth when they seem to be obfuscating, delaying not turning over documents, congressman jordan. how do we compel them to give us the information we need to find out the rut? >> you just stay after it. i said before, it took us eight months to get a break through on the benghazi investigation. stay after it. here's what we learned. we learned the director of the fbi doesn't know who is heading up the investigation. but what didn't get much media play is that there's no evidence that the fbi has even talked to the victims, talked to the groups that were targeted by their own government. what we also think is that it's been testimony was received, people we talked to say that the fbi did visit them when they

were applying. so months ago, years ago when they were applying for tax exempt status not only were they harassed by the irs but they got a friendly visit from their fbi agent. you talk about a chilling impact on people exercising their first amendment rights. so we just got say after that. we're interviewing people every day. that's what we got to do. you'll ultimately get to truth. i got a colleague who said it best. there's no statute limitations on the truth. this is so important, so fundamental, this government using an agency as a weapon to target americans exercising their political beliefs. that's why it's so critical we get to truth. the other thing the folks who were there today these are people who care about the constitution. they meet at their local elementary school, vfw haul, church basement and got visited by the fbi when they were

applying for tax exempt status. this shouldn't happen in america. >> sean: thank you both for being with us. appreciate it. we'll continue to stay on the issue. still ahead tonight on hannity, liz cheney, karl rove and much more. michele malkan is here. now it's time for you to select the video of the day. here's option number two. by the way i'll be biassed. out of control airline passenger -- watch this. wait until you see how that ends. that's my vote. vote for how you want. malkan in studio next.

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here with a reaction, welcome from the great state wherever you live i won't say. how are you? for your own protection. >> everyone knows. it's colorado. >> sean: pot is legal there now. this is particularly frustrating. >> yeah. >> sean: why in my gut think this wasn't a mistake. >> i think it's a good instinct. the mayors against illegal guns is a far left radical group and it's not out of question to think that many of these members actually have genuine sympathies for the likes of tamerlan tsarnaev. it's really interesting how they back tracked. it's because conservatives who were reading carefully what this group is doing, this is part of a bus tour all across the country now. they are cranking it up. speaking of colorado, of course, it's because of bloomberg's meddling in colorado that we

have fewer second amendment rights there now and this group is now blaming liberal blogs from which they culled this list that had tamerlan tsarnaev. i think we need more background checks on mayors against guns. how about background checks against this kind of stupidity. >> sean: bloomberg will spend billions. do you think our second amendment rights are in jeopardy? >> they are. let me point out this group has a 501 c arm to it, a social welfare organization with special irs tax treatment. no scrutiny. the lies they spew. the smears they have lodged against law-abiding gun owners. he's spending billions. now if this was a right-wing group we would hear all about it in sunshine and what about the donors and darkness and where is

the transparency. >> sean: a double standard. we just had marco rubio on the program, conservatives including myself looked at this bill. we all have given it time to develop. i don't see the border security first. all of us have said this from the beginning. now i'm told -- i spoke to a number of people in washington before i came on the show tonight. the announcement tomorrow is doubling of agents, the building and completion of the fence, 700 plus miles, the technology, all of it, e-verify, entry, exit, there will be people stay close out those cases within 180 days. all of those things i'm told are going to be triggers before there's any legalization process. i'm just telling you what i heard. if that's the case does that change thing for you >> of course not. >> sean: tell people why. >> look these are empty gestures. this is enforcement kabuki by desperate democrats and republicans who have been willing tools for the open

borders lobby. and identify known it for a quarter of a century that i've been reporting on the detrimental effects of these am netty for the country. we made the first mistake in 1986 and made it a dozen times. with every amnesty that's been passed by congress. there's one result from it. more illegal immigration. and words as ted cruz put it, words do not secure borders. >> sean: if, for example, the house is saying that they would bifurcate this, secure the border completely first then deal with the 11 million people here illegally. would you be open to that if it was verified the border was completely secure so in other words we wouldn't have a third, fourth and fifth wave. >> reject the premise of secure the border first. secure the border period. because the constitution says article iv section iv nobody

talks about the constitution any more when we talk about illegal immigration that it is the duty of the federal government not only to provide for the common defense but to secure the states against invasion. and they failed and failed to do that job. listen to the immigration enforcement agents themselves who have warned the likes of rubio and ryan and all these gop tools for amnesty that this current administration has done everything in its power to sabotage immigration law. why would you trust them. >> sean: our friends on "fox & friends" this morning had a report that there are al qaeda supporters, sympathizers crossing our border. i want that border secure. >> yeah. >> sean: i think we got to get it done for our national security. >> of course. i've been reporting on otms other than mexican category that have been coming across the southern border since just after

the september 11th terrorist attacks tirelessly. my message to these gop amnesty people is do you really, really want to be associated with the likes of this teddy kennedy amnesty 2.0. all you need to do, you had chris on the show yesterday and talking about these zealots who have no interest in securing the border, making sure there's fair treatment for u.s. citizens who are out of work. 11 billion people here illegally. that's bogus i think it's closer to 25 or 30 million. okay, fine. i one life is hard for you because many of them willingly broke our laws. there are 23 million americans and other law-abiding people who are out of work. >> michele malkin we need you back in studio more.

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. . . . >> sean: welcome back to hannity. the scandals plaguing the white house is catching up to the president and causing his popularity to plummet. his approval rating dropped eight percentage points and stands at 45%. my next guest predicts if obama can't right this ship he may

find himself near lame duck in the very first year of his second term. joining us now the architect, karl rove. i'm so connected, a column written by yours truly that nobody has seen tomorrow in the "wall street journal." that's how connected i am. you talk a lot about these numbers. >> are you monitoring my emails. >> sean: i think i am. >> very good. >> sean: what do you make of all this? >> a lot of trouble for the administration. you mentioned the overall job approval number. the big drop was among the young people, age 18 to 30 dropped 17 points. that may be a small sample inside the broader poll but the president dropping eight points in the last month is not good. this is one poll but i had a conversation yesterday with a pollster of mine and in at least two states where he did work a month ago and did work just this week, it mirrors the same kind of drop.

look, in the cnn poll revealing. if you look at it the president's approval on the economy, 42/57. he's upside down. in march of '09 it was 59/40. on foreign affairs it's 44/54. march '09 it was 66/28. handling the budget deficit, 34/64. we have one-third of the people. terrorism where he still has a positive number 52/45 down from 61/35 when he came into office. this is not good numbers. here's the most damaging one. this is really troubling if you're in the west wing of the white house tonight. honest and trustworthy. 49/50, the president is now upside down on being seen as honest and trustworthy. by example, just after he got sworn in he was 74/23.

so the percentage, 25 points, he's lost almost a third of the people just over a third of the people who thought he was honest when he was sworn into office and the number of people who think he's not honest and trustworthy has more than doubled to half the electorate or half the adults sampled. >> sean: can you put those two together and maybe break it down, the american people saying he's dishonest and that he's failed on issue by issue as you went through them, is that one way to interpret that? >> these things are connected to some degree. i think, for example, the fact that he's done down on foreign affairs and terrorism has to do with benghazi. the economy is anemic. he spends his time talking about global warming and things that are not consequential to americans. this guy is just simply doesn't think we have a budget problem

coming. he doesn't think we have an entitlement bust coming. he thinks everything is fine. let's find more tax revenues and more money to spend. those are -- this is very dangerous territory. you're starting to get up there with 64% in the nose bleed territory when it comes to a negative. i think we're likely to see unless the president finds a way to set the record straight on things like the nsa, and benghazi and the irs scandal, i think that we're going see a continued d e ed dimunition of numbers. people are beginning to open their eyes as to how is he handling, take these fun and games away, take all the enthusiasm and charm and celebrity, how is he doing on big issues like the economy, foreign affairs and the deficit. those numbers are not good.

>> sean: do you see a path to righting that ship? >> well, i think he's got some real difficulties. there are some things he can do better on. there are some things that he can sort of lance the wound on benghazi. he ought to find out who is the person who misled us and told susan rice go out there and lie to the american people by claiming this was an anti-muslim video. he could on the irs, company say look i'm not only going to -- i under congress is going to have oversight on this but i've asked the inspector general to go back and look at these specific questions as well. i want the answers on the issue of the nsa, he could go out and defend you want. he had this appearance on charlie rose on monday night in which he sort of haphazardly and disjointedly defended the nsa program. it was filled with all these kind of things that made you not want to believe him. he said we created the fisa courts. wait a minute you didn't create

them. they were created in 1978 when he was a junior in high school in hawaii. >> sean: he's against the patriot act. >> right. he said this program is transparent. no it's not. nobody believes that. it shouldn't be thanks parent. you should describe what you can describe but you don't take our sources and methods and lay them out there. then he took a swipe at dick cheney and conservatives who are concerned by saying they were for this when bush was doing it now they are against i want when i'm doing it. so, he's not doing himself any favors. >> sean: taking a shot at catholic schools. we'll get into that later. karl rove, good to he you see. president bush true a crowd in berlin despite the scandals plaguing his administration the commander-in-chief lectured the german people about the importance of freedom. coming up next time still to cast your vote for video of the day. i think i'm voting for the one

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>> sean: welcome back. president obama's arrogance was on full display earlier day as he spoke in front of brandenburg gate. the president decided it was important to lecture his audience about justice freedom and the role of government. oh, really? watch this. >> let's remember that want peace with justice depends on our ability to sustain both the security of our societies and the openness that defines them. now threats to freedom don't merely come from the outside. they can emerge from within.

from our own fears. from the disengagement of our citizens. our current programs are bound by the rule of law and they are focused on threats to our security not the connections ofe in the united states and here in europe. but we must accept the challenge that all of us in democratic governments face. to listen to the voices who disagree with us. to have an open debate about how we use our powers. and how we must constrain them and to always remember that government exists to serve the power of the individual and not the other way around. >> joining me to react, liz cheney. like those headlines. >> unbelievable, sean. i do have to say, to give the president some credit, he continues to feel the need to proclaim that he's not dick cheney, and every time i hear

him say that, i have to say, absolutely. this president is nowhere near the man or the leader that dick cheney is, and for him to sort of, you know, have all of this rhetoric about honesty, justice, transparency, when we see what's going on here in the united states across the board is lack of credibility, and dealing with the american people, i think he's left a lot of people, frankly, chuckling around the globe, wondering what's going to come next here. >> how does your father react to that comment? >> he laughs. my dad is a man of honor, a man of integrity. a man who has courage of convictions. a man who clearly understood and understands today what it takes to make this nation strong, keep the american people secure, and, again, every time barack obama says i'm no dick cheney, anybody who knows dick cheney nods their head and said you're right. >> and back in 2008, germany,

gave a big speech, 200,000 people and i think we're down to 6,000 invited today. does that tell you anything, one side of the screen, 2008 and then 2013. what does that tell you? >> well, you know, i think the german people it looks like have come to the same conclusions in many instances as the american people have. one of the things that troubled me about this speech was his talk again about unilaterally slashing our strategic nuclear weapon systems, and talking about, you know, basically if you look at what's happening around the world today, and the fact that syria is falling apart, the middle east in flames. you have hezbollah resurging across the region. iran, iraq, north korea with its nuclear program threatening us. you have al qaeda resurgent, and the president decides in response to all of that, the

solution, he's going to cut americans systems? you can't make it up. >> scary. you can't make it up. you know he had a bad day today, chris matthew has to make this pathetic excuse. watch this. >> a lot of the problem he had today was the -- the late afternoon sun in berlin ruined his use of the teleprompters. his usual dramatic windup was ruined. >> the late afternoon sun in berlin ruined the teleprompter. >> to have chris matthews and barack obama in the same segment is making my night. the president, clearly -- the best could you say, he seems to be in over his head, naive. when you think about what vladmir putin did in stealing the super bowl ring and imagine barack obama try to go up against him head to head in

terms of nuclear weapons systems, in all serious, the american people have to be very nervous and on top of that, the fact that this president came into office and slashed our missile defense systems, the very systems we need to protect us against rogue states with nuclear weapons, one more piece of evidence. new leadership. >> iran, the middle east, north africa, these are all problems. >> thank you, sean. video of the day that you selected, coming up next, straight ahead.

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welcome back to "hannity." time to reveal what you, the viewers, have chosen, the out of control airline passenger. according to the person who filmed this video, passenger at dulles international airport and appeared to be drunk. apparently extremely angry his flight was late and this is what happened income.

[ bleep ]. [ bleep ] you. wow. i'm assuming after that display he didn't get his complimentary peanuts. also tonight before we go, we want to pay tribute to the author, vince fwlin. passed away at age of 47 after a two-year battle with camera. he was a big friend of the show, and our thoughts and prayers are with his family along with the

family of james fwand old tiny. greta is next to go on the record. see you back here tomorrow night. fox news alert, the actor best known as tony soprano has died. james gand old finney died, 51 years old. master of the stage, screen, and television, but it was the "sopranos" that made him a star. on. >> $40 for a piece of fish that they just flew in first class. we're more than lucky. >> 200 soldiers in this family. [ bleep ]. i can't touch this [ bleep ]. >> what was your mother like? ever let you down, hurt your feelings? think you ought to turnro